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		<title>By: Never teh Bride</title>
		<link>http://manolobrides.com/2008/04/22/strong-enough-for-a-man-but-made-for-a-groom/#comment-166797</link>
		<dc:creator>Never teh Bride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you missed my comment about the content on the site, Becca, so I'll just c&#038;p it here:

&lt;i&gt;As for the groom-specific content on the site, it’s all of the get-you-tux/deal-with-the-car/the-stripper-conundrum variety. I don’t see anything about budgeting or choosing a venue or how to write vows or buying favors. I do hope they add more in the future [and if they do, I'll definitely recommend it] but for now I’m still going to continue to suggest that grooms read The Engaged Groom or Groom 411 if they’re interested in getting more involved in the planning process.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you missed my comment about the content on the site, Becca, so I&#8217;ll just c&#038;p it here:</p>
<p><i>As for the groom-specific content on the site, it’s all of the get-you-tux/deal-with-the-car/the-stripper-conundrum variety. I don’t see anything about budgeting or choosing a venue or how to write vows or buying favors. I do hope they add more in the future [and if they do, I'll definitely recommend it] but for now I’m still going to continue to suggest that grooms read The Engaged Groom or Groom 411 if they’re interested in getting more involved in the planning process.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think 96% of all wedding related sites, some of which NtB has pointed out earlier, are ridiculous, not just this one. Everything that is particularly, commercially designed to be critical to fill the needs of a person for one day of their lives to me seems irrelevant, pointless and too expensive.

Just like the nail polish for brides. Any bride can wear what ever polish they like and any non-bride can wear the same shades. They shouldn't need specific lines for "the engaged". And any groom can have their power tools in a normal department store, or choose the pastel colored silk linens instead.

I'm sorry to say that from my point of view the whole business has gotten way out of hand over there in the United States a long time ago. This discussion only underlines it in a sad, sad way. How can something so trivial as gifts cause such a riot that the men want their own site? "Don't get left behind" ?? Wasn't this about the two people getting married...

Enforcing gender stereotypes is just as stupid as fighting them only to prove a point. These kinds of websites will only promote bickering among the two extremities (as we've seen). 

I glanced at the site and noticed I could put 8 out of the top 10 items on our registry without consulting the groom, but only because that's me. I don't want to fight for keeping girly things girly any more than putting an end to all gender oriented traditions. 

I hate that all my feminist friends disapprove of my work in the kitchen, neglecting the fact I simply like doing it, regardless of traditions, upbringing or expectations. I won't try to fix the car only because that would be radical, and I won't mind Mr. Johanna getting excited about vacuum cleaners.

No matter how deep the war between the genders get, the marriage should be about TWO people and both their needs together, not dividing them even further apart.

This site will not get the grooms more interested in wedding planning. It will only give the pigs who love it a great way of demeaning the women who like doing the planning and the men who like their women and doing their share in the kitchen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 96% of all wedding related sites, some of which NtB has pointed out earlier, are ridiculous, not just this one. Everything that is particularly, commercially designed to be critical to fill the needs of a person for one day of their lives to me seems irrelevant, pointless and too expensive.</p>
<p>Just like the nail polish for brides. Any bride can wear what ever polish they like and any non-bride can wear the same shades. They shouldn&#8217;t need specific lines for &#8220;the engaged&#8221;. And any groom can have their power tools in a normal department store, or choose the pastel colored silk linens instead.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to say that from my point of view the whole business has gotten way out of hand over there in the United States a long time ago. This discussion only underlines it in a sad, sad way. How can something so trivial as gifts cause such a riot that the men want their own site? &#8220;Don&#8217;t get left behind&#8221; ?? Wasn&#8217;t this about the two people getting married&#8230;</p>
<p>Enforcing gender stereotypes is just as stupid as fighting them only to prove a point. These kinds of websites will only promote bickering among the two extremities (as we&#8217;ve seen). </p>
<p>I glanced at the site and noticed I could put 8 out of the top 10 items on our registry without consulting the groom, but only because that&#8217;s me. I don&#8217;t want to fight for keeping girly things girly any more than putting an end to all gender oriented traditions. </p>
<p>I hate that all my feminist friends disapprove of my work in the kitchen, neglecting the fact I simply like doing it, regardless of traditions, upbringing or expectations. I won&#8217;t try to fix the car only because that would be radical, and I won&#8217;t mind Mr. Johanna getting excited about vacuum cleaners.</p>
<p>No matter how deep the war between the genders get, the marriage should be about TWO people and both their needs together, not dividing them even further apart.</p>
<p>This site will not get the grooms more interested in wedding planning. It will only give the pigs who love it a great way of demeaning the women who like doing the planning and the men who like their women and doing their share in the kitchen.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa B.</title>
		<link>http://manolobrides.com/2008/04/22/strong-enough-for-a-man-but-made-for-a-groom/#comment-166372</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becca, the sentences I'm having trouble with are these:

"The days of men being content with dishes, hand towels, and linens as wedding gifts are over."

"Too often [couples] were registered for gifts that were strictly geared toward the kitchen. Where were the gifts that the groom could get excited about?"

According to the Man Registry, your fiance should not be excited about the things you registered for, because no real man would be content with hand towels and kitchen stuff.  Besides, as others have pointed out, the registry itself isn't really filling a need -- you can register for gas grills, GPS devices, video games, and just about anything else at a lot of other places too. 

I don't think anyone is actually angry or upset or under the impression that The Man Registry is oppressing us.  The sales pitch just makes us roll our eyes, and I think NtB summed it up well when she called the registry service "pretty pointless."

A good website geared towards grooms, on the other hand, with tips and information, would definitely be a useful thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becca, the sentences I&#8217;m having trouble with are these:</p>
<p>&#8220;The days of men being content with dishes, hand towels, and linens as wedding gifts are over.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Too often [couples] were registered for gifts that were strictly geared toward the kitchen. Where were the gifts that the groom could get excited about?&#8221;</p>
<p>According to the Man Registry, your fiance should not be excited about the things you registered for, because no real man would be content with hand towels and kitchen stuff.  Besides, as others have pointed out, the registry itself isn&#8217;t really filling a need &#8212; you can register for gas grills, GPS devices, video games, and just about anything else at a lot of other places too. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is actually angry or upset or under the impression that The Man Registry is oppressing us.  The sales pitch just makes us roll our eyes, and I think NtB summed it up well when she called the registry service &#8220;pretty pointless.&#8221;</p>
<p>A good website geared towards grooms, on the other hand, with tips and information, would definitely be a useful thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Becca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's rediculous everyone is getting so upset about this website.  It's a fun, informative site for the groom with a cool registry.  It's funny.  And maybe it's just because I'm comfortable with who I am and my gender, but if my fiance wanted to register on a site like that I wouldn't feel threatend.  

And no one even seems to be acknowleging the fact that it's got articles for the groom.  All along my engagement my fiance has been asking me ten million questions about what he pays for, what he plans, etc.  And honesly, has anyone even looked at the website?  The layout is classy.  It's not crass or super manly.  It seems to me that if those guys wanted to start a sexist website, they would have designed it completely different.

And isn’t part of the feminist movement about being able to choose who you want to be as a person? I love being super girly and I’m proud of that. My fiance loves being a tough man but is sensitive. He’s excited about the things we’re registered for, and I could see him being just as excited about some of the things on that site. So whats wrong with having different outlets for different people in the world? Why does it always have to turn into an issue of repression? No one’s forcing anyone to use the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s rediculous everyone is getting so upset about this website.  It&#8217;s a fun, informative site for the groom with a cool registry.  It&#8217;s funny.  And maybe it&#8217;s just because I&#8217;m comfortable with who I am and my gender, but if my fiance wanted to register on a site like that I wouldn&#8217;t feel threatend.  </p>
<p>And no one even seems to be acknowleging the fact that it&#8217;s got articles for the groom.  All along my engagement my fiance has been asking me ten million questions about what he pays for, what he plans, etc.  And honesly, has anyone even looked at the website?  The layout is classy.  It&#8217;s not crass or super manly.  It seems to me that if those guys wanted to start a sexist website, they would have designed it completely different.</p>
<p>And isn’t part of the feminist movement about being able to choose who you want to be as a person? I love being super girly and I’m proud of that. My fiance loves being a tough man but is sensitive. He’s excited about the things we’re registered for, and I could see him being just as excited about some of the things on that site. So whats wrong with having different outlets for different people in the world? Why does it always have to turn into an issue of repression? No one’s forcing anyone to use the website.</p>
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		<title>By: Becca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And isn't part of the feminist movement about being able to choose who you want to be as a person?  I love being super girly and I'm proud of that.  My fiance loves being a tough man but is sensitive.  He's excited about the things we're registered for, and I could see him being just as excited about some of the things on that site.  So whats wrong with having different outlets for different people in the world?  Why does it always have to turn into an issue of repression?  No one's forcing anyone to use the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And isn&#8217;t part of the feminist movement about being able to choose who you want to be as a person?  I love being super girly and I&#8217;m proud of that.  My fiance loves being a tough man but is sensitive.  He&#8217;s excited about the things we&#8217;re registered for, and I could see him being just as excited about some of the things on that site.  So whats wrong with having different outlets for different people in the world?  Why does it always have to turn into an issue of repression?  No one&#8217;s forcing anyone to use the website.</p>
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		<title>By: Top 5 Wedding Blog Posts of the Week! &#8212; Our Wedding Plus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 5 Wedding Blog Posts of the Week! &#8212; Our Wedding Plus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] standard registry is to girly?  Checkout Never teh Bride’s post over at Manalo for the Brides “Strong Enough for a Man, but Made for a Groom” and see what you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] standard registry is to girly?  Checkout Never teh Bride’s post over at Manalo for the Brides “Strong Enough for a Man, but Made for a Groom” and see what you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: french</title>
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		<dc:creator>french</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Tobe, but I think that encouraging gender stereotypes is FAR from harmless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Tobe, but I think that encouraging gender stereotypes is FAR from harmless.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is harmless, as well as informational. If you all honestly believe that the typical man out there wouldn't use a site like this - you're crazy. If I wasn't already married, I would be telling my fiance to pick out a few things on The Man Registry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is harmless, as well as informational. If you all honestly believe that the typical man out there wouldn&#8217;t use a site like this - you&#8217;re crazy. If I wasn&#8217;t already married, I would be telling my fiance to pick out a few things on The Man Registry.</p>
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		<title>By: Twistie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twistie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even fifteen years ago when Mr. Twistie and I were setting up our registry, there was plenty of opportunity to add in things like power tools and TV sets. The one thing that kept Mr. Twistie from choosing things for the registry was Mr. Twistie. I was standing there begging him to have an opinion on ANYTHING AT ALL. If he'd actually expressed a preference for orange and chartreuse polka dotted bath towels or a penis shaped lava lamp, I'd have said okay because he'd bothered to give a crap.

The one and only reason I can think of where a groom would 'need' a separate registry of his own is a situation where he's got a hell of a lot bigger problems than the fact that he isn't registered for just the right circular saw or gas grill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even fifteen years ago when Mr. Twistie and I were setting up our registry, there was plenty of opportunity to add in things like power tools and TV sets. The one thing that kept Mr. Twistie from choosing things for the registry was Mr. Twistie. I was standing there begging him to have an opinion on ANYTHING AT ALL. If he&#8217;d actually expressed a preference for orange and chartreuse polka dotted bath towels or a penis shaped lava lamp, I&#8217;d have said okay because he&#8217;d bothered to give a crap.</p>
<p>The one and only reason I can think of where a groom would &#8216;need&#8217; a separate registry of his own is a situation where he&#8217;s got a hell of a lot bigger problems than the fact that he isn&#8217;t registered for just the right circular saw or gas grill.</p>
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		<title>By: La BellaDonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>La BellaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm so with NtB on this one!  Of course, I believe that anything on a registry that &lt;i&gt;has to do with a home&lt;/i&gt; is geared towards women AND men - unless the guys are chained to trees outside, they are also the ones living in the new homes being created.  That's what MAKES a home - living with someone you love.  Sometimes it's a cat, sometimes it's someone you just married (...and his cat), but if both parties are sharing the real estate, what's on a registry pertains to both of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so with NtB on this one!  Of course, I believe that anything on a registry that <i>has to do with a home</i> is geared towards women AND men - unless the guys are chained to trees outside, they are also the ones living in the new homes being created.  That&#8217;s what MAKES a home - living with someone you love.  Sometimes it&#8217;s a cat, sometimes it&#8217;s someone you just married (&#8230;and his cat), but if both parties are sharing the real estate, what&#8217;s on a registry pertains to both of them.</p>
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